-+? Sabots can be vary funny about what they shoot with in different guns. I have found that certain bullets such as the SW and FTX shoot quite well with the Short sabots certain others such as the Gold Dots have consistently grouped tighter with the Harvester 300gr + sabot; and then there are the 45 cal 240 gr the only way I could get them to shoot under an inch was by shortening the SBH. I believe the configuration of the nose of the bullet has something to do with it. I have been experimenting with the length of sabots in relation to the configuration of the nose for about a year now and things are starting to get interesting. Lee