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Old 07-30-2009 | 03:02 PM
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Try here... They list these as .451/250 gold dots - but they have not made these for several years... they switched to .452/250.

Call the 800 number and verify that they are .452/250 Speer Gold Dots...

http://www.gamaliel.com/cart/product...cat=874&page=1
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