Blue bird2: c'mon, your kidding right? The only reason I would disagree with you is, the answer wasn't provided. I'm starting to believe that STEVENY was on to something in an earlier thread. Your last post takes a section from an article { from all places, a newspaper } regarding the New York Metropolitan area-naturally omitting the references to that, which are interspersed throughout the article- you even call it a quote, and use it to answer my previous question of " where is the link that supports your statement" in regards to your statement that ' the biodiversity cc of northern hardwoods is less than 10dpsm, whether it's the Catskills, western NY or the central part of the states '. Now your considering those three areas " Northern Forests "?? Western NY and vast Majority of Cental NY are reclaimed farm lands,and/or logged, logged, and relogged. The land can support far more than the 10dpsqm. LOL. Trust me, once you step into an actual Northern hardwood forest, you'll never forget what one looks like. Big difference from " woods ". Your true northern hardwood forests of NY, however are another story, and are already at that number or near it, with the possible exception of pockets of development in the area of the Catskills and Southern Catskills, which, by the way, is spitting distance from the NY metropolitan region.


NYSmoker: That Tonawanda area, especially around Transit has some MONSTERS!! Frankly, if I was already in the area, I'd head a little East towards Walden and Gennesse { rt33}. Many of the property owners there will gladly allow at least bow hunting. Lot of damage thrpughout that region from deer. Your also correct about the doe tag issue. Insurance companies and their lobbysts are driving that train.