Thanks for all the feedback. Alot of hunters just can't warm up to a rifle in pump action but have no problem with using a Rem 870 shotgun??? I am getting about 1.25-1.50"/100y groups right now from factory ammo Rem CL 130gr. I am going to reload Sierra GK 130gr with H4831 starting at 53.5g and work up from there. I will also try H4350 and Varget powder.