Granted I'm not shooting a magnum. I have an NEF Huntsman, and shooting at about 60 yards I'll lay Hornady 240gr. XTP's in a dime with only 85-90 gr. of BH 209 using a red dot. I would feel comfortable knocking down anything in the lower 48 with this combo and I can make a expensive $34.00, 10oz bottle last me a lot longer. I have a fairly small frame and it doesn't knock me clear to Mississippi every time I squeeze the trigger.