YOU got that right KEYS, it's not changed all that much either with the over 50 crowd..show up at any sportsmens' club two weeks before and they dominate the scene...I've seen some that were 1/2 inchers..especially one in .244 many moons ago..I've never really seen a bad one to be honest with you..the first ten bucks I killed were with a 30/06, one shot, one kill...my son killed his first with the same rifle...ask the Bennoit's..kindda neat seeing them caring them on northwoods advententures on the sportsmen's channel.