#40fan You are the man. my weiner flippers were getting wore down trying to figure all this out. Thank you so much for all you do. Sorry for being an idigit at this. Have spent a few years not getting on these sites much because of all the negative stuff I see on monster muleys, trapperman, and the such just p.m. the people that are friends that I may need some help from and maybe to give a little. Now I remember why i lurk. Thought this place was maybe different and have been posting some but??? well at any rate thanks for the help.