I'm more than a little confused here, fellas. Doug if your pellet count showed less than fifty dpsm last year, and the harvest was 42 dpsm according to BB's math, than not only was the herd reduced in TL, it was damn near annihilated! ??????? So what is happening at TL? Inquiring minds want to know! LOL, JK.....I understand that deer will enter/ seek refuge in the residential areas (another 6000 acres). Safety zones make controlling deer in residential areas an archery only game, and even then it is tough. But you got to admit that a harvest rate of 42 dpsm has got to be having some of an effect on the undeveloped region.