There are some inconsistencies in there advertising it does not say the trophies were actually shot with a muzzle loader or what load or what bullet. The suggestion because they are on the Thor page is that they were taken with Thor bullets. But knowing how often we are hoodwinked with advertising I doubt any thing that is not stated. What are the recommended loads? Where are the size to brand recommendations? Looks to me like these boys need to do their home work. Lee