Thanks for the responses, the situation is this. I bought my Dad a new bow, he dropped the draw weight tad from before, and with the cut out riser(you see how old his other bow was) we can lop an 1 1/2" off the arrow. So when I put in the newer parameters to eastons selection, it' s a bit on hte stiff side. The bow paper tuned well, it' ll probably be this weekend or so before he does any real shooting. He shoots a release and a 125 gr head already.