thanks guys I definitely feel inadequate compared to some of the pictures that the rest of you put on here. I'm hoping I start getting the bears we have around here soon. My dad traps here (I'm 24 and living at home for only a short amount of time hopefully..I'd be gone by now, but I had a very bad illness that put me in the hospital and then a nursing home for awhile so I swear I'm not a mooch) so I dunno if I'll do alot of shooting because he WILL catch the coons and coyotes. Hopefully he gets a bobcat permit so he can take that one out too.