You guys are killing me, I fully understand the benefit of having quality optics, I just can't afford any of them. The best scope I was able to afford is a Mueller 4.5-14x40 AO that I put on my .17hmr. Overall though I have three Tasco 3-9's, the first was purchased in 1976, and it still works great. I guess I'll just keep reading posts like this one and maybe someday I'll hit the lottery.