If I was going Leupy, I'd go VX3 not VXIII. Regarding reticles, there are other choices. I kind of like the German #4 myself. I also agree 100% with HEAD0001. I have two Swaro AV's and they are wonderful scopes. I believe Swaro is adding a new 3X erector series thus the great prices on current inventory AV's. Check out S.W.F.A.