ok steve bad news i killed more game with a bow then you ever will.I was PSAA champ for 3 years and on the PSAA team champ for 2 years.Till i lost my right eye and the use of my left arm i shot bow every day.I have never stuck a deer a lost it'how many did you' at 80 yards i can put 5 out of 5 in a pie plate can you do it at 40 yards?Come to pa and shoot we shoot from 7 yards to 80 yards