The .357 is a perfect man killer. I talked to the Hornady reps at the SHOT show about the leverrevolution ammo, and their aim was to create a pointed bullet for lever guns. This ammo has a rubber tip that is soft, other plastic tipped ammo still has a hard tip. What they found during testing is that the rubber tip expands outward when the tip gets squished backward. This stuff will expand throughout a wide range of velocities, and the 30-30 round still expands on deer at 300 yards. When they moved on to other calibers like the .357 they found that it gives reliable performance as a self defence round. Hollow points are great but their one downfall is if the intruder is wearing heavy clothing, the hollow point can actually fill with fabric which thwarts expansion, the rubber tipped ammo blows right through heavy clothing and still expands as intended.