I was just saying I am not going to be a "push-over" (Thanks MT) Glad my second explanation made more sense to you Chuck. Im just the kind of guy that can confront someone without making them feel threatened, never been a fighter, all though I can if need be, but Im not gonna let that happen over a fishing hole. BTW granted my arms are long, I am still slow as molasses in a fight [8D], I need to at least get in one good thump to slow them down, if they know how to fight, at least the couple of boxin matches I have been in with buddies showed me that.As said before, evaluate every situation differently and pick your battles wisely.