Am I the only one that enjoys reading those 2 bicker back and forth. It's like 2 bored old housewifes going at it. The way I see it both of you guys have a strong interest in the Ml world but differ in the way to get to the top. Please keep it up with all the stress I have in my life right now(wife battling cancer) its nice to get a laugh. Thanks Grouse and SWT and I hope both had a great FATHERS DAY.........I did. Chuck