Good shooting Cayugad. The New Englander is a fine rifle and is all I hunted withback in the late 1980's. Funny thing is I've never shot balls from mine - only Hornady Great Plains conicals and cast .458 420 grain Lee's in crush rib sabots. I get one-inch 50 yard groups with the cast Lees over 70 grains Pyrodex. You should give them a try in that gun.