I dont know how many of us think pgc goal is to ruin hunting Doug. I dont see them going out of their way to make us miserable. I think it more like them not giving us/ deer hunting much consideration one way or another. The degradation to our sport is just a nasty little side effect of them catering 100% to other interests. Like the econuts and timber/dcnr. They see how it is effecting us and just do not care apparently. That is what happens when you have people dictating GAME management when hunting isnt an important consideration to them at all. They feel we should be happy as long as there deer actually existing to hunt, no matter how few they decide to "permit" us we should be thankful to them! LOL.[:'(]

This is also not "conspiracty theory" this is exactly what is going on.

"I also understand the need to have less deer"

As can i. Within reason. But not the lowest dd's in the country! There is no reason to have statewide slaughter to the extent that it has taken place.

"and I can live with less."

As can I. LIVE. Yet I see no reason to bend over on command. For such extremes as has been implemented there need be very good reason. And Im sorry but unnatural levels of biodiversity that exist nowhere in the country because econuts want our forests to be the trillium and hobblebush gardens of their wet dreams is NOT a good reason for me!!