whiney?lol cornelius i'm not whining.you said what you said.you said you don't hunt rifle season.second i'd bet you don't hunt more then me.i swear you must of rode the short bus.you keep saying they like your above everyone.in all honesty what you need to know is something i've accepted awhile ago-yes it matters how we vote but honestly your opinion doesn't mean crap.neither does mine and i'm fine with that but if you wanna go lobby against the pgc go do it somewhere else.this is a hunting forum.you are the reason people are giving up hunting in pa.you are the reason everyone thinks pa has such a huge problem with deer.i'll admit its not perfect and they do need to change their ways of going about things BUT there still are deer and there are still nice bucks out there.and in our area it seems like there have been more mature ones too AFTER antler restrictions went in effect and every year the bucks seem bigger.BUT i also see that there are less deer.and like i said yeah your vote counts but you are not going to change the pgc.i hate to tell you but your not.and the way your going about everything your not going to get too many people believeing you either.all you do is argue with everyone when their opinion doesn't agree with yours.some guys agree with you to a point but when their opinion is a little different then yours you start your name calling.if anyone is a whiner it'd be you.what you say to me means nothing to me.you whine and start your crap when someone doesn't agree.and thats childish.i agree with you on some points but not others.and when i first replied you jumped down my throat and started your ****.so to me your a disgrace to this forum and to pennsylvania.your not helping just insulting pa and trying to drive out people that are very gullible.i've read almost every part of this forum you've written in and you never can debate with someone without calling them something or trying to make people think you're above them.your nobody to the pgc or pa cornelius.just like the rest of us,we're just a stat.accept the facts.