Racingputz says: "what he meant was the only results we should worry about are from the men,women,and children that do get out and hunt.unlike you cornelius,some people are just glad to be able and get out in the woods even if they don't get something.and unlike you cornelius these guys have real life facts,not something they pick up off a bunch of websites"

As do i, and far more than they and most likely you. Unfortunately many see our singular personal experiences as not worth a dime in regards to the "big picture" of deer management. But when my experiences say the plan is a failure, and most other hunters believe it a failure and pgcs own data shows it a failure....Guess what? Its a failure.

".and i don't see why you care so much about the deer considering you barely hunt them."

id bet i hunt them far more than you friend.

"in one of the threads,you said you didn't rifle hunt and that's one of the best seasons to see deer you haven't before"

I usually dont need to. Because Im usually tagged out by then. I believe once in the last decade I havent been. I took my bow during the rifle season, and ended up killing an 8 point that year in flintlock season. In years past I have also taken bucks with my bow during rifle season. I also never said i dont go. I go wether tagged out or not. I have a dad whos getting up in age and other family and friends that I help out any way I can including drivin for them.

"and lastly do you think your a tough guy trying to yell at people through a forum?lol honestly."

Where'd you get that impression?? I like to think of myself as an internet nice guy. In person Id just spit in someones eye for such a comment. LMFAO. Course Im sure you or another of these bozos would and could prove me to be a wimp in person, just an internet hero yadda yadda yadda LMFAO. Heard it all before friend. Get a life. Ive also not "yelled" at anyone. I also dont say a thing I wouldnt say in person. In fact, id say far more to someone I dislike when I neednt fear banning on a message board. So stop your sniveling whiney. LMAO.