ORIGINAL: jeepkid
.45 LC for elk at 50 yards is okay...but a .223 on deer isn't...
I did some homework and there are some really good rounds for the 45 that will be fine for elk at close range. As far as .223 for deer that's up to you. I would want a .243 or better buta .223 is legal in some states, so if it's legal, more power to you!