BTB that didnt answer the question.

BB, I agree completely. Its a far more complex question than it seems at first glance.

I believe it not absolutely necessary to strive for "other states" success rates,.....certainly not any one in particular.... We do have some of our own variable to consider of course. But moreso, we should strive to improve PA, compared to our present situation. We simply need to implement responsible stategies that do not cater to only one or two stakeholders that are far ouit on the extreme end, and foresake all others. Take the sport itself into at least SOME consideration, put deer where they should be in reasonable numbers, while also considering the habitat and human conflict without using them as excuses to go to completely unnecessary extremes, and the rest will work itself out. Also remember that success rate is but one factor....but yes a very important one. Quality of hunt, quality of herd, and perception of management and perhaps ohters are also factors that contribute to hunter satisfaction. With SOME increase to the herd, and responsible management, all of these would have no choice but improve, and with it, hunter satisfaction.