ButchA:
R.S.B didnt really set anything straight,,,and i intend to point out a few holes in his theories that do not sit well with me.


There is nothing wrong with the hunting in Pennsylvania other then the Commission spent way too many years listening to hunter demands instead of the information the deer and their habitat were providing. Fortunately that has started to change and we have a brighter future for both the deer and deer hunter ahead

The above quote by R.S.B is a crock of chit,,and let me tell you why:
Pre herd reduction years when deer were running everywhere you were allowed to kill 1 deer with a single liscense purchase,,,then if you were lucky enough to go thru the hassle to fill out a doe permit ,,,send it in on time,,,,have it filled out so completely that it made you half nuts wondering if everything was right,,,and then get your permit mailed back to you saying it was ok to kill a doe you could start hunting,,,kill your 2 deer ,,,and hang the gun up for the year! Hunter demands had nothing to do with the deer being overpopulated,,,it was PGC greed protecting the deer that lead to over-population. The PGC proudly posted deer per square mile #'s in every hunting book and magazine known to men to attract hunters to the state. Not one hunter pre HR that i ever new of both resident and non resident didnt want to kill more deer per year and the hassle of getting your liscense straight every year eveen lead alot of guys to killing more deer than allowed to and in turn those deer never got reported as taken

Heres his answer to a question you asked about handing out tags and creating a deer slaughter

Actually you heard wrong and most likely from people that didn’t have enough real facts to have any idea what really was happening. The antler less license allocations have never been too high for good deer management though there have been many, many years in many areas were the number of licenses has been way too low to adequately control the deer populations and protect the deer food supply.

Doctor Alt understood that, while many hunters never did and many never will.

Now here you didnt actually hear anything wrong,,,you heard right! The Pgc handed out red tags to every farmer that wanted them for crop damage and boy did these tags ever get misused! Misused to the point where i dont even know if my facts are straight on the proper use of them so i wont claim to have any knowledge on the "proper use",,,but i will tell you my knowledge on how they got used. Guys were sitting in farmers fields shooting every friggin deer that hit the fields for months in the spring the years that this red tagging was taking place,,,they used the tag to get the deer home and in the freezer and then the next day that tag was being used again. So if a farmer got we'll say 20 tags to use for crop damage,,,i know of certain circumstances where 100 deer were killed with those 20 tags. If you read back over rsb's answer,,,he's right when he says that most hunters didnt realize what was happening and that doc. alt did understand because doc. alt knew that if he gave the hunters enough rope to hang themselves they would,,,he played on hunter greed and he was right! This same area that im talkin about had massive deer slaughters taking place at the same time by the Amish community for the same reason,,,all labeled as crop damage,,,it was a "free for all" and thus you end up with a shot out herd like Pa. is experiencing right now. Im sure someone will try to persuade you differently by providing some kind of fictictous #'s,,,and if that happens,,,you would have to ask,,,,what kind of mathmatical equation did you use to account for the #'s of deer being killed that were never reported. I have to quit now because it's sunday morning and i should attend church to ask forgiveness for all the cussing i have done already this morning typing this response