As far a elk calls from Primos I have the Hoochie Momma, the palate plate mouth calls, and a single reed hyper lip with tone converter. As far as a bugle I have an Abe & Sons that I' ve had for several years that works very well, except I can sound to big and bad, makes the bulls nervous and calls in other hunters. Need to learn to quit trying to sound like the biggest meanest bull in the mountains, but dang it sounds good.