And V-dog. I will dissagree! Ruger produces some very high quality guns. The mini 14 was developed for the war back in the mid sixties and turns out the troops begged for them but political junk didn' t let everybody have their weapon of choice. You ever see a mini in auto? It fires so fast that the brass comes out split because it fires even before it chambers. You ever shoot the M16 by colt? Piece of ****, have to clean it all the time.Browning has the machine guns down but our troops are at a disadvantage in the desert against even the AK 47' s when wielding an colt. If armalite and their hardware would team up with ruger on their 1/4 turn actions, there would be one sweet rifle to say the least. Ruger also has sweet total guns right out of the box. I own many of them. You get what you pay for I guess.