the savage will out shoot most everything in its price range and it has a great trigger,i'd go the 270win. 140grn bullets will kill anything you ever see. as for scopes ,you don't need to spend a fortune on one. buy what you can afford. i'd get atleast a 3x9x40 or maybe a 4x12. any brand 150.00 and up . get the 270 and load it down to 100grn bullets this summer and get good with it before deer season ,shooting varmints.