lemoyne, didn't know that about the twist rate... I've got 1 1/4 groups with my 700ML with the 200g w/100g of 777 so I figured Ishould be able to get the same out of the Genesis. I only was pushing it that hard because of the lighter weight bullet... I'll see what 90 does next time I get a chance. Thanks for the info.

Semisane, not in this Genesis (stainless, laminate thumbhole). The only thing that's been shot out of it has been BH. My other blue/black one I shotPyrodex, 777 and BHout of it. Pyrodex RS and BH shot best out of it though. 777 was just a touch less accurate-but not much. In fact, now that I think about it. I killed deer w/all 3 different powders in it.