That doesnt mean its good hunters are quitting and becoming a less efficient management tool + funding providers, and it also doesnt mean those who still find success havent had their satisfaction maleffected.

As for those cycles, I dont see it. Here, according to pgc annual report which my observations agree with, the herd has been in basically a steady downhill slide since the late 1990's.

Deer will not be cyclic in Pa. We dont have mass winterkill and the habitat generally doesnt change overnight. If they arent slaughtered, they will be where they have what they need consistently. The main factor right now in most areas is the allocation. The allocation is too high and the herd is too low.