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Old 05-28-2009 | 05:08 PM
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Default RE: PA VOTED WORST DEER STATE IN NATION

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Btb:
Yes you have adapted to "some" changes,,,you hunt out of state on a lease that is being managed to fit your needs,,,same as i do,,,i am overwhelmed with deer here in va and i am blessed with the opportunity to hunt some of the best hunting land this state has to offer,,,but nonetheless,,,,it sure would be nice to see at least 10 different deer a day when i come to Pa. to hunt,,,I know you get your deer every year in Pa. as well,,,but i would be willing to bet that the area you get it in has not been submitted to relentless hunting pressure by guys that have an undetermined amount of tags and just kill the sh!t out of every deer they see. And i would also be willing to go out on a limb and say that if you dont or have not seen a problem with the current deer status in your state,,,than i would not see your face planted all over these forums
You are correct that I have a lease out of the state and yes, that is my best deer hunting. I've been going out there for 12 years now, long before AR/HR and that has nothingto dowith my Pa experiences except that it has shown me how deer ought to be managed

What you don't know much about are my hunting areas here in PA. I live on the 2B 2D border and naturally spend more time closer to home in archery season. I also have a camp in 2F on the edge of the ANF and can tell you that2F is the area where the most positive changehastaken place since AR/HR.

Our camp gang has definitely noticed less deer in 2F but the correspondingupgrade in quality and size of the bucks and size of the does has been just as noticeable. We have found new hunting spots in 2F and have managed to do very wellon public ground without having to get way back in away from the roads. We even have a few guys who qualify for handicap plates that manage to consistently see and shoot good bucks. Does arent running all over us but we see plenty and take a few each season

As for my observations after AR/HR in 2B (an SRA). It's there that I've noticedlittle improvement in the average buck while seeing less does but thats not surprising considering the access issues that protect bucks to an older age. SRA's are a totally different ball game.

In 2D where all but 5 acres of the ground I hunt is open to all, again, the buck hunting is better and the doe hunting is still very good.

Good deer hunting isn't that hard to find. Excellent deer hunting is available for those willing to put in the time. The only thing that has changed is that the deer pinballgame on the Monday after thanksgiving is now a thing of the past. I'll certainly not mourn the loss of that tradition
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