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elknut1
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You' re exactly right about bulls wanting to grab their harems and run off, I call them " runners" . The reason they do run, is because the caller, once he gets a response from the bull usually doesn' t know what the bull said. If he did he could put the bull at ease with the very next call. All calls don' t have to challenge the real bull. Most guys when getting an answer usually bugle again to try and pinpoint about where the bull is, the next thing they do is move in his direction 75 to 100yds and call again to find ouy where he is, by then the bulls starting to pack his bags and head over the mountain not wanting a confrontation. And of course the hunter is now bugling repeatedly trying to stop the bull, fat chance, you' ve already blown it, worst thing about it is they' ll do this all over again on the next bull.
Cow calls can work great in early season and after for bulls who haven' t collected many or any cows yet. In most cases the bull at that time comes in quiet and it takes real patience convincing oneself a bull is going to coming in. This can work, but it' s not exciting enough for me, I like to get them vocal, then work them from there. Again as mentioned before, if you stick to mainly cow calling in an area where a bull has cows and what not, 9 times out of 10 you' ll call in the cows first and that can mess everything up, unless you turn the tables on him, and that' s exactly what I do.
I have various techniques that I use depending on the response I get from the bull. But my main intent here is to get the bulls attention with no challenge involved. Bulls at this time have already " staged" and he knows every bull in his area by sight or by there bugles, so to him I' m a newcomer, he wants to know who and what I am. (a threat or not) He will only run if he feels threatened. So in some cases I' ll bugle 3 or 4 times in a period no longer than a minute, that lets the bull know I haven' t advanced on him. I then give some soft rapid chuckles, (not grunts) followed by several different cow mews and a calf mew or two. By doing this it shows the bull that I' m pulling my cows together. As far as this real bull is concerned this puts a new light on the situation, he certainly isn' t feeling threatned. What I do next puts that bull right in my lap, I' m sure you can guess what it is. So you see, I feel bugling in early season can and is productive, provided it' s done right. Wolf killer, this small tidbit may help you this season as well with that bull you' re after. elknut1









I can envision this bull already calming down




















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