I do have calipers. I will admit I did skipthe case measuringstep when I loaded the .45s. As I mentioned above, they were once shot factory loads so I skipped a step I will never skip again. I did measure them after I loaded them to make sure they were not longer than the factory FMJs. I seated them to be the same length and I noticed that the bullet was not seated all the way to the shoulder/taper of the JHP. If I would have seated them all the way to the shoulder/taper of the JHP, they would have been shorter than the FMJs. I just picked up the latest version of the Lyman Reloading Manual. I have asked Lee for directions and they are on the way. Some bullets are longer than others like FMJs or JHPs. It seems like if I seat the JHPs to the shoulder/taper of the bullet,thebullet length isgoing to be shorter than the FMJ. So, is their a minimum overall bullet length? Or, as long as the case length measures out,will I be OK? I found the maximum bullet length specs but nothing about a minimum overall length. Is there one?