Well I got the TPS wads and tried them today with lead and hevi shot. With the multi-metal wads my patterns were terrible. Only about 90-110 hits in 10" at 30 yards with #6 shot. With the TPS my numbers are 170-190 in 10" at 30 yards. Hard to believe that wad makes that much diff. Now hevi shot reaaly shoots. At 30 yards 258 in 10". This wad holds right at 2oz. of lead and hevi. At 40 yards with hevi I got 173 in 10". That is almost as many as my 3.5" 870 with hevi-13 2.25oz. I am now very excited to use this gun for the rest of the turkey season. Should be a solid 45-50 yard turkey gun. Nopt too bad considering black powder ML.