Ok I just got off the phone with the person that does my reloading.... I have for my 338 a 210gr.spitzer.... The original question that I had asked was can I get 165gr. nosler for a 338...I have since learned that the only one that makes a 165 is Barnes...The ones that he loaded for me was not a 225 gr. but a 200 gr nosler ballistic silver tip.... And those do too much damage to the deer that I am hunting....I have a 30-06 and in it I am using a 150gr.nosler....I find this load to be most affective on the deer that I hunt....SORRY for the confusion......[:-][:-][:-]