I've only used them with the kids because kids will be kids and get figidity. I love to sit up against a large tree and see and smell the morning dew and flowers in bloom, I just can't explain that feeling and the anticipation of seeing a turkey only adds more to it. The only thing I do not like while sitting are them damn Missouri rat tree snakes. I took a nice bird one year that fell near a large tree and when I bent down to pick up the tom this damn thing made it's acquaintance with me. I darn near crapped myself and just watched as this thing crawled up the tree. I shoot a blackpowder 12 guage and did not have a loaded gun. I am always "looking" for this somewhere but when the birds come I always forget as I am so into the birds. This is where a blind could get rid of that fear, however I have one with no floor and it sits on the grass or whatever so that snake could still find its way in.