Get em going hot while they are still in the trees. I was doing soft tree yelps till it got a little lighter then lay into them with some excited yelps and cuts series and do a big gathering boss hen call, about 12-15 yelps in a row. Has been workin for us, I justdidn't havethe opportunity to use it this weekend. Although I did use a small version of it when I brought that one in saturday in the afternoon. When they are henned up you gotta be the biotch from the get go and make them come to you from the fly down or your hunt is over till late morning when they are done or you can bring that boss hen in. I brought 4 hens in sat mornin and we were talkin back and forth for over an hour and the boss hen did not like me one bit. Four hens and me all talkin for over an hour non stop and no toms or jakes even in the area, and only one tom within ear shot,how rediculous... Good Luck. WCL