I was getting 268 shooting 66#'s with my axis 340's with 100gr. tips. No idea what the real weight on them was, butthe silence made up drastically for the deer[8D] I traded the general for a 101st and WOW was there a huge freakin difference. The bowsare litterally polar opposittes lol! It took me quite a while to get used tohow noisy the 101streally was. My hunting setup was shootinin the 300fps range tho so the noise was really irrelevant. Atleast the deer didnt think so anyway

Derek