Dan you are absolutly right, it has something to do with bowhunting. It makes you perform better in the field and just feel down right good. I was 230 two years ago, I started eating different cutting out sweets and soda, now just water. I started hitting the weights and just recently like Greg, picked up on p90X, Im now currently 185 lbs and im not joking, i feel 20 years younger Do it!!