I do not own any part of Climb Paws! I have tryed them and I have seen photos of a 4 wheeler hooked to one by the winch and lifted into the Air and the step held. I just wanted to expose tree stand hunters to a new product different from the metal bells they currently use. I used to use tree screws but they are now illegal in my state. I used to use ladder stands but I'm in my fifties now and they're heavy and I'm tired of coming into my stand and finding cigarette butts around the bottom of the tree from where someone else used it while I was working. Isn't this a sight to talk about new products or are we all just hunting with a 30/30 win. cause it was good enough for our daddies.[:@]