c'mon, truth is that when anyone says " 70 but no more." they really mean they'll take shots just about as far off as they can see a beard and another truth that normally exists is that they have NO IDEA how their gun shoots that far away

the question was on patterning a 20 gauge vs a 12 gauge ....... that question really hasn't been answered yet has it ?

I'd like to see some photo's of some targets, comparison's etc because I'm curious too.