Agreed. Reasonable herd reduction coupled with antler restrictions, could have potentially set the stage for high hunter satisfaction and suppport, not to mention a license increase or two. Some reduction was needed in some places. No one, I believe, has denied that much. If they had gone about it differently (that meaning if they gave a rat about hunters and had reasonable goals other than extreme biodiversity or commercial timber) we would be in a good place right now for hunting, the habitat, and everything else.