The top picture you posted was of the gut shot hog. That's were the bullet really impressed me. It made a bad shot a humane kill. That's a nice benefit for anyone in hunting conditions. We all like to think we can make the perfect shot but it alway's doesnt happen.

As far as accuracy they are accurate so far in four muzzleloaders. Knight Disc Elite 45 and 50. Knight Vision, and also the T/C Triumph. All Muzzleloaders are either using the short Black MMP'S or the short Black Harvesters. Both are very good sabots in my opinion.

The 200grn bullet was excellant. The hollow point on the 200 is shorter then the 250grn bullet. So the petals are smaller and more of the bullet blows thru. You could make the petals longer by making the bullet lighter. Drilling the hollow point deeper. After this past weekend i see no reason to alter that bullet at all.