On the subject of carbons and price. I bought a half dozen traditional lites 6 months ago for 49.00. All 6 are still in perfect shape.(have re-fletched) In the same time period I have also broken at least 2 dozen POC at 23.00 for shafts. And not counting feathers ,glue points and finish, it seems to be a wash out on cost except the POC are history and the carbons are still going strong. Don