"Ok why don’t we cut the numbers to the chase and through all of the ones that were not just a yes or a no."

I did when I worded my poll. No need to be creative and deceptive RSB, RIght now on this poll.IF a license fee increase depended on thosevoting, it would not pass. 20 are opposed 12 for it. Majority says NO!



"As for the totality of the support across the state I can’t say anything more then what I see on the boards plus the number of hunters I have personal contact with. I am confident that I talk to more hunters from all across this state in just one month of the hunting season then you do during the entire year."

I dont believe thats the case. Nor even close.

"The hunters that I have talked to do overwhelmingly support a license increase."

NOr do I believe thats the case or even close. I dont beleive a wco is going around asking every hunter he sees if hes for afee increase. I also know you'd not be above being less than truthful about those you have, since you are clearly being so with this polland your ridiculous twist on the results! LOL! Not to mention all the other crazy damage control measures you have triedin regards to other topics.

"As for me lying, I don’t. I always tell it as I see or I don’t tell it at all. In most cases I also have the facts to support what I say, even my I interject my opinions about the way it appears to me. "

I like to give benefit of a doubt, but considering some of the things you've said I find that VERY hard to believe. Ive read your posts for years...Enough to believe that you arent a complete dummy....Not exactly in MY league.[:-]...but not a dummy. So in my opinion there is no way you dont know many of the things you say are complete distortions of the truth.

"You however constantly call people a liar; that is simply immature behavior."

Not when its true.

"You called a trooper friend of mine a liar the other day and I simply pointed out that you probably wouldn’t do that if you were face to face with him. He is the largest trooper in our barracks and though he really is a heck of a nice guy and pretty easy going I doubt he would take real well to someone calling him a liar."

Thats hardly exactly what was said! LOL. But Id say this version is much more acceptable.

"I am more then willing to debate a person on just the merits of the topic provided they are willing to keep it civil without calling people a liar when all they did was post something you don’t like or agree with. "

Hows that different from you on every single reply postto anyone you are debating at the time, saying first "you dont have a clue what youare talking about" and often much worse. I dont really care mind you, because I believe honestly that what I post generally speaks for itself, as does others posts. But the majority of time when I say someone is lying....they are. The rest of the time, they are doing something else equally as intentionally deceptive.

There are several things that when postedits clear thatyou absolutely hate because they simply do not look good for pgc. And there isnt a thing you can do or say unless its deceptive in nature to do damage control. If your concern is more with respectful debate than it is "damage control", in those instances, you should either concede the point and try another angle on itor othertopic, ignore it all together or something other than saying something you know not to be accurate, and then expect it notto be pointed out.