Da Griz.... I've checked the Excal Lumina Zone out at the dealer. He had that one ona Parker Tornado I looked at (which is the one I'm seriously considering).It's nice but the Hawke IMO gives you more with the reticles and the Red-Green circles along with the ability to range pretty accurate plus a possible 60 yd point also.The Tru Glo Tru Brite is the other one I looked at. Nice scope but also IMO offers less than the Hawke HK3246. I will go and check the Ten Point 3X Proview, thanks for the come back .BBO, I talked with David at Wyvern Creations the other day about the Parker Tornado and the Barnett Predator. I got on the net and started looking to see whats out there and found the Hawke, so I will contact David about that. Sounds like he's still " Da Man".Thanks guys and Happy Hunting !!!!!!!!!!!