Chap - I couldn't agree more. My bullets of choice for my 50 cals are no less than 300 grain and for the 45s its 200 gr. I play with the powders and the charges until I find the right combination of speed and accuracy with accuracy being the first priority. But I ML hunt in the east and about 95% of the time usually with an open sighted sidelock with shots under 100 yds. (usually closer to 50). Those bullets punch nice big holes in deer.