ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr
ORIGINAL: bigcountry
It depends where you place them. More towards the middle, I find it can slow an arrow down up to 10fps. More towards the cam, and little to no difference. I have had 2 people argue me and I break out the chrony and now all the sudden their suppressors are not as attractive anymore. I am sure I will get rotten tomatos thrown at me on this one. But I enjoy them.
I know Dave on here did some tests too and found something simular. Placement was key. He used an adjustable STS. The STS works a tad better as its tunable.
But it makes sense why it slows it down. You have a string coming to an abrupt stop. Where is that energy going? Its being wasted. A string will travel 3" or more past where it is at rest if you look at any high speed video. That extra 3" is exerting force on that arrow. Maybe not the whole 3", but the string keeps exerting force on the arrow until it leaves the string. A suppressor can short stop that. I also believe thats why the heavier arrow wastes less energy from a bow.
I think that is why the bowtech suppessors don't have as much an effect. They let string go little past. But stops the high frequency buzz.
This is just my tests. Since the two suppessors are near the cams on teh mathews, I can't see them causing issues.
Now it could be me, but if what you are saying is correct, the 82nd and Katera, and Alphamax's will have have better than advertised speeds if people just get rid of those damned String suppressors systems that they all have. I'll use Hoyt, because they seem to always be the closest to their advertised IBO, but are you saying I could get better than the advertised IBO by ridding the bow of the STS that is on it????
I can't say it happens on all bows or setups. But I do know it happened to me. And I have witness's on this page. I do need to go back and try it again and get to the bottom of it.
I feel the difference is the design of the "stopper" on the bowtechs. I am not familiar with hoyts design. Seems like hoyt lets there be some string movement past static position.
It wasn't a huge deal on my liberty (which is why I bought the meanV), I went from 260 to 254. I have sold that bow.
But what was shocking was it dropped my commander from 275 to lower 260's. Also added back weight and got my bow out of balance. I talked to Dave on here position his STS real low and he got a speed increase.
So started investigating this. And found two other peoples bows dropped in speed also. Theirs were like the liberty, only losing a few fps.
I admit, I need to revisit it. The commander is already dead quiet. I need to experiement with distance from the string, and position. But the now the meanv just sits in my archery box. I tried selling on ebay with no luck and on here.