Mav,I wouldn't fish in a lake that had one fish and I wouldn't hunt in an area that had no game.I don't know why people continue to hunt where they claim there's no game.Some of my old spots have changed for the worse and some have gotten better.In fact,alot of different variable constantly change so no one spot is consistantly successful for me.

In 1980,I killed a small spike at 8:15 in the morning.That was the seventeenth deer I saw that morning.The next year,I never saw a deer until the last day of the season and only saw 2 that day.The next year,I got my first ever doe tag and killed a doe late in the afternoon on the first day of doe season.I hunted all private land back then and saw about the same number of deer as I do today on public land in 2G.Things did change around the late 80's and into the late 90's in that area and seeing 30+ deer a day was expected.I can't say that make the hunting better however.This year I saw one single deer on the first day in Moshannon state forest.It was an 8 point with at least a 17-18 inch spread.it bedded less than 30 yards from me and Icouldn't shoot it because my tag was already filled.There was a fair amount of tracks in the snow so it did surprise me that I only saw one deer that day.I went back to the same spot onthe first saturday and filled a dmap tag.I also saw a nice high 6 point that I could have easily killed.I think I saw 8 deer that day before leaving the woods at 10:00am.the next saturday I hunted public land in Cameron county and once again had to pass up a small but legal buck.I saw a group of 8 more doe but couldn't get a decent shot and thenstill hunted up on a bedded doe and killed her in her bed.As I was dragging her back to my truck,Isaw another doe that would have offered me an easy shot.once again,I was back to my truck with a deer by 11:00am and I saw 11 deer,including a legal buck.How is that bad?Any other hunter in the state has the same right to hunt these areas as I do.I still have days when I get skunked like I always have but my opportunities toaday are better than they've ever been.