I never shot them. I just pushed them down the bore to see if they would load. They loaded so hard I figured they were,nt worth shooting. I think they would be a good deer bullet with 80 or 90 grains of BH behind it. I tried this during hunting season. Ive got 100 of the CR sabots, I may just buy a box of the .41 Gold dots this spring & try them out. Shooting in the summers hard for me. theres just way too many walleye swimming in these great lakes that belong in my freezer, So most of my shooting is in the spring & fall. I know thats no exscuse