Skeeter your method of hunting is not wrong in my view whatsoever and I didn' t mean to come accross that way. I' m not one to say my way is the only way. I agree that we all have our own " ways" and thats the way it should be. All this ' level playing field' stuff doesn' t mean a thing to me, knowledge is the real advantage. I don' t care if someone else is using a " better" rifle with " better" sights. What is important to me is that if muzzleloaders continue the way they are we may lose the privilage as we know it. Meaning they may shorten the season or start putting all kinds of laws in effect. I guess if it stopped where it is now then it wouldn' t be abig deal but manufacturers are not going to stop imporving these things. I say put the modernization in the centerfires and leave a little purity in muzzleloading. I' m afraid that in muzzleloading the " hunting" concept may be lost because range has hit 200 yds and will start hitting 300 then 400 yds. Its not wrong to shoot something at 400 yds but thats not a muzzleloader hunt thats a centerfire hunt at that point. If you' re shooting at game around 100yds then in my book that purity isn' t lost but I know a guy who can darn near put as tight a group at 200 with his muzzleloader as I can with my centerfire. Thats just not a muzzleloader any more, thats the only point I was trying to make.